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L. mactans or l. variolus? Found on the underside of a decaying log on the forest floor. I did not peak at the ventral side as I did not want to disturb the spider.
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- Submitted: May 23, 2023
- Photographed: May 23, 2023
- Spider: Unidentified
- Location: Middletown, New Jersey, United States
- Spotted Outdoors: Ground layer (leaf litter, dirt, grass, etc),Under rock, log, or debris,Forest
- Found in web?: No
- Attributes:
That’s a black widow.
It’s a “Northern Black Widow”
Thanks, is there any reason you suspect this is a northern black widow versus a southern black widow? I know the best method for distinction is to look at their ‘hourglass’ shapes on their undersides, but I didn’t want to disturb this spider, so I didn’t check.
Location can be ruled out. New Jersey has both Southern and Northern. Here is BugGuide’s New Jersey Black Widow sightings over about the last 20 years..https://bugguide.net/adv_search/bgsearch.php?taxon=1999&location%5B%5D=NJ
@Spiderer I don’t want to interfere with the question to you, your turn…