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Picture ID 195653

Picture of unidentified spider

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I live in a rural area in New Nexico near Tucumcari. Newkirk specifically. The spider was found in our yard in the well near the top just under the lid. It's under one of the hoses that's attached to the electric pump. There was heavy rain and hail the night before if that matters. My family discovered it first and thought it was a black widow but it's clearly not. I thought it was a false black widow but I can't seem to find anything about a spider with a single redish orange stripe on the back. I don't know much about spiders.

  • Submitted by: 
    Odude781
  • Submitted: May 12, 2024
  • Photographed: May 12, 2024
  • Spider: Unidentified
  • Location: Newkirk, New Mexico, United States
  • Spotted Outdoors: Man-made structure (building wall, fences, etc.)
  • Found in web?: Yes
  • Attributes:
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Nod

I am pretty sure this is one of the widow spiders. They all start out …as spiderlings …quite colorful and usually lose the color as they mature. Some black widows retain their color into adulthood. I think this is Latrodectus hesperus …the western black widow….because..as far as I can see ….it is the only one present in New Mexico.
https://bugguide.net/node/view/2012183/bgimage

BugmanDan

Brown widow.

Nod

Are you sure Dan. I have never seen a picture of a brown widow with a single red/orange stripe down its back like that.

BugmanDan

No, I am not sure, but I have never seena black widow this light in colors either.

Nod

I have never seen any of them in person …but I have seen the odd (admittedlyvery few) pictures of them as a light reddish brown
https://bugguide.net/node/view/1891735/bgimage
https://bugguide.net/node/view/939525/bgimage

BugmanDan

To my know, there are 5 species in north America. I have been up close and personal with all of them.
I am wondering if these could be a morph with widows from Mexico and south, a new immigrant, or yet a new species. Somthing to put under a microscope.
World spider catalog has been little help, but haven’t looked through inaturalist.