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Araneus andrewsi

Picture ID 197424

Picture of Araneus andrewsi - In Retreat

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This is the same spider as the other one I submitted on June 25,2024. I'm pretty sure that it's an orb weaver. What type, I'm unsure of. It is on a large rose that is about the size of a large human palm. It did have a web spun, but was damaged by water spray. I've seen it for several days now. It hides up inside one of the roses.

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TangledWeb

I originally Idenfied her as Araneus gemma, but changed my mind when I saw her markings in the other photo. Here’s more info https://bugguide.net/node/view/72653

Nod

It could be but A. gemmoides and A illaudatus are so similar that bugguide has a combined page for some spiders. Where they can’t tell the difference….your spider has such a thick noticeable white line though I think it might be A. gemmoides…..look at this pic and see what you think….it really is a guessing game though… orb weavers are very variable
https://bugguide.net/node/view/1581673/bgimage

Nod

Are you certain this isn’t Araneus gemmoides…bugguide mentions a “fine white line crossed by two shallow white Vs on the anterior of the abdomen” for this species..
https://bugguide.net/node/view/33149
I haven’t been able to find any defining characteristics for A. Andrewsi. Am I missing something.

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Picture of Araneus andrewsi - Male - Dorsal Enlarge Picture
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Picture of Araneus andrewsi - Dorsal Enlarge Picture
Picture of Araneus andrewsi - Dorsal Enlarge Picture