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- Submitted: Jan 1, 2020
- Photographed: Jan 1, 2020
- Spider: Agelenidae (Funnel Weavers)
- Location: Walla Walla, Washington, United States
- Spotted Indoors: Other
- Found in web?: No
- Attributes: Dorsal
Agelenidae
(Funnel Weavers)
Picture ID 97847
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Dec 11, 2019 - Photographed
Dec 11, 2019 
Male
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Roseburg, 
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- Submitted May 6, 2020
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- Submitted Oct 21, 2019
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- Submitted Dec 6, 2019
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Looks like a jumping spider
Either a Grass Funnel-web or a Wolf Spider. There are lots of species with this coloration.
I attempted to learn whether the number of claws on the spiders’ feet (tarsal claws) could be used as a way to rule out some families of spiders in identification. So far, all I’ve found is that Wolf Spiders have three per leg. This spider appears to have two, but there may be a third I can’t see. I couldn’t find any charts, or barely any other info online about spider claws. If anyone knows of a good source please add a link.
Pretty sure this spider has only two tarsal claws per leg.
Agelenidae has three claws also. I almost never use a key because I learned to ID without one so I had to look that one up.
I learned the strict tedious way – from the start of a massive key only. We had to write it out at every taxonomic level from Kingdom down, none of that ‘ looking at the pictures stuff.’ ;(
My way was harder in the short term. I had no idea what I was doing, taking pictures of spiders in my house and spending uncountable hours trying to find them with google.
And there was much less accurate info available online when you started. I’ve been learning spiders your way, it involves a lot of early memorization. Keys don’t work well with photos of spiders. They are much more useful for plants. My specific morphological focus was on plants and insects in college. When I take plant photos for later ID, I take photos of undersides of leaves, roots, stems, buds, etc. My phone’s Photos file looks sadly obsessive and boring to anyone who snoops into it – lots of plant parts and blurry spiders.
I think genus Agelenopsis is the best consideration thus far.
I don’t have it in the photo, but the spider did have very pronounced hind spinnerets. Also, it moved extremely fast.
Yes Agelenopsis spp. spiders are super fast. Unfortunately a microscope is needed for species identification. I haven’t brought myself to kill one to identify it yet. I’ve handled enough dead animals in labs . If you work with Formalin or formaldehyde, wear gloves please! We weren’t required to and I didn’t. I permanently lost some sensation in the skin of my hands. I also developed sensitive reactions to products that contain the chemical. From your presentation of the spider I get the impression that you are a student or work in the Biology field. Grass spider webs aren’t sticky enough… Read more »
Sometimes when people find out I’m into bugs they ask me if I collect insects (like on pins in boxes). I don’t. Too many scary chemicals involved in that process.
The many things I do collect always end up with a big mess of things waiting to be identified and put away in an organized way. Like the basement storage areas of many museums. I decided that a heaps of dead bugs impaled with pins collection is not a good match for me or anyone who visits my house.
I appreciate the tips. I am an agriculture student, so I’ve taken a some general biology classes. Through my time in school I’ve really learned to appreciate everything in the world around me, and I am always open to learning more.
Thanks to you and everyone here for your contributions.
You’re quite welcome! You chose a great field to study with a wide range of jobs.
There are several very similar genera out west so I can’t give a firm ID, I don’t think this is an Agelenopsis however. Compare to Hololena nedra: https://bugguide.net/node/view/237303/bgimage
I see what you mean, the prosoma and posterior are more rounded than Agelenopsis.
Stockier legs and relatively shorter spinnerets are what I notice.
Huh. I’d say closer to Hololena than Agelenopsis. The color pattern on the back of my ID isn’t so much of a “shoelace” pattern as that of the Hololena nedra photo you linked here… https://bugguide.net/node/view/237303/bgimage
If anything, I’d say this specimen (https://bugguide.net/node/view/1661189/bgimage) looks more similar than most I’ve searched through. Unfortunately it has not been identified.
I pointed to nedra because it’s the only one in the genus listed with a range in Washington.
Calilena and Novalena are two other similar looking genera with spp. in WA. Scroll down here to see known ranges here, sometimes ranges are incomplete but it will give you an idea: https://bugguide.net/node/view/1974