Comments & ID Thoughts
Would like to know what spider this is?
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- Submitted: Nov 12, 2019
- Photographed: Nov 12, 2019
- Spider: Steatoda nobilis (Noble False Widow)
- Location: Barton-Le-Clay, United Kingdom
- Spotted Outdoors: Man-made structure (building wall, fences, etc.)
- Found in web?: Yes
- Attributes: Dorsal
This is a brown widow. They are a sub-genus of the black widow family. I could tell better if you flipped it over into it’s back, but don’t. Brown widows still have the hourglass shape, but it’s small, yellow, and black. They are still quite venomous.
This is Steatoda nobilis, a Noble Cobweaver. They are in family Theridiidae. They are not medically dangerous spiders despite the UK media reports to the contrary. This is not a Brown Widow. Damon please put a question mark after your answers if you aren’t certain of what a species looks like. Brown Widows have wide red-orange hourglass ventral markings. I am happy to work with you.
Sure. I am now reviewing your comments on my comments. All of them. You commented on everything I did. You are right that I wouldn’t be sure of UK spiders. I’ve never been there. I actually don’t know if I read where it was from, initially.
I’m still catching up on reading the comments on my comments too. 😉
Thank you for your help. I did look up what type of spider this could be and came across “false window”. Are they the same as a “Noble Cobweaver” / “Brown Widow” or are these completely different species?
Sorry, I do not know anything about spiders.
All spiders in the genus Steatoda are False Widows. Steatoda nobilis, aka the Noble Cobweaver/Noble False Widow is one of them; there are a few more species. Brown Widows are in the same genus as Black Widows, Latrodectus. Both Latrodectus and Steatoda are in the Cobweb Spider family (Theridiidae). Basically, Widows and False Widows are two very closely related genera of spiders, which is why they look so similar.